How does dale chilton jr. get into the B division.
saw his name and half dozen others that belong in the A or AA division. Shame on all of you who do it just to win $800.00. No balls as far as i am concerned.

erik.

Dale Chilton Jr. should get a start in the B division. Just my opinion. He has only played, and placed in a handicapped tourney and should not be excluded from beginning where most of us have.

I have a similar story with winning a large handicapped tourney and was put directly into the next higher division for all tourney's, and I only placed 9-12 in the A division in the state tourney. "Ship It!" AA after that...

Good luck Dale, make it count.

daxs

is it fair that m8 open players rated 30-60 or once a week players in vender leagues are just learning have to compete against someone of dales ability. if a players ability can place them properly we should do it. Just because someone hasn't won a division is a junk excuse.

beat him, end of story. Rather than cry about it show some ability. I too think he should get a start at B. I also agree with Dax's, "make it count."

Are you talking about the same Dale Jr., that went 2 and out last year in the same BCA state tournament?
WOW

if i am wrong about his ability, i certainly apologize to dale jr. ten years plus of listening to players complain about who is in what division and watching players knowingly try to go below their playing level just to win small amount of money has taken its toll.
i think of a B player as someone new to the game, or very casual with the game, with minimal pool skills and little or no pool knowlege.
i look at an A player and see someone that has playing experience. they can run a rack. the fundimentals are improved. advanced pool knowlege is lacking but certainly above a B player.
maybe it is time to define in writing what each level standard is and apply it where needed.
good luck to all this weekend.

Pool is not like Golf, Darts or Bowling; it isn’t easily handicapped.
With erik’s (Erik”s) logic, we can add another layer of subjectivity to our beautiful game.
Players should be able to earn ($) there way up through the divisions.
I have to play them in the lower levels because I have the knowledge of a “AA” player and the ability of a “C” player.
I can be fun to annoy them with my knowledge as the beat me with their ability.
Watching the smooth mechanics pushes me to continue to endeavor to smooth out the inconsistencies in my stroke.

I would say blame both parties, the player for signing up for the lower division and the director for allowing them to play in a lower division.

I agree that a "B" player is someone that is just starting out and limited knowledge of the game. I would say Dale Jr, should have been placed in the "A" division with his experience and previous tournament play.

Dale Jr went 2 and out at the BCA. He's in the right division (B). He placed 2nd in the M8 singles last year which is a handicapped tournament. B is where he belongs.

Sure glad I don't have to be in the middle of this, it's so nice to just go and play in tourneys.

It's kind of the chicken or the egg syndrome. Are divisions handicapped to try to level the playing field based on known ability or does a person have the right to play in lower divisions until they have placed high enough to show their ability.

I can see it from both perspectives honestly. Until we answer that question though we will struggle with it tournament afetr tournament and year after year.

Dale jr. is a good kid and is definitely improving his game. It won't be long before he's up there.

I'm sure he wasn't the only one that didn't belong in the B probably. BUT, everyone deserves to start in the lower class and earn there way out. I know people that are better then me and are still in the B division. They just run into good players or not so good players playing good. Just because someone plays good pool doesn't mean they'll win a state tournament. And if they do, then Good Job. It wasn't easy I'm sure. He'll be in the A now next year so one less to complain about. lol

There's a distinction between some people being borderline and some way over the top. The ones that are obviously over the top should be placed immediately in a higher bracket, but that's just my opinion. I think otherwise, it's detrimental to the entire tournament and you run the risk of losing players. I remember only a few times this happening, but it caused an uproar.

I remember someone crying about how bad he played and how he cant compete with the masters anymore and needs to play in the AA.... then robbed the turny as a AA

Father like son ?