I remember talking to you about the Monday night tournament a couple of months back. Thanks for understanding. I would have sent you an email explaining my actions but you didn't post one.

I only deleted the post when it gave specific details.

Thanks,

Dean
763.784.9446

Well Jeff you can ask all the ?'s you want but when you post the date, entry fee, added money, start time and races it becomes an ad. I asked if he wanted to place an ad because what he posted was an ad. He didn't post an email address and didn't use his real name so I don't know who he is. Ads cost money, discussions are free.

READ the RULES of the forum. It explains it very clearly. These rules have been in place since the website was developed. I haven't changed them at all.

As far as the purpose of the website - it's a business where bars and billiard rooms can advertise up coming events and fill their tournaments up. You can reach THOUSANDS of players for only $30. Thats a great deal.

To advertise call

Dean
763.784.9446

Well stated Dean. After doing Chalk Talk for 13 years and trying to advertise all the upcoming events, people still don't understand that it costs money to run a newspaper and it costs money to run a website. I know Jeff understands that - just needs a reminder once in a while. Bottom line: Spend a little bit of $$$ advertising on the sites that support the industry and you'll see a $$$$$ return on it. Don't spend any and the industry suffers. It's that simple. We all can't work for free. John Stich

I understand the reasoning behind both John and Dean but the problem you need to remember, when you have upset people on here and can't information that is needed, there is no way but DOWN. Plus all that does is invite competitors!

Toni has enough contacts with her picture email list that if she was smart, she could charge half the money and make twice as much! Advertising can be easily done through Word documents and emails.

Well i didnt see the post where he stated the dates and times and everything. All i saw was him asking about the tourny you must have delete the other post before i read it. I was just going by what the thread said and then it was locked.

Dean,
"ANY business or Person can place an ad and talk it up until the cows come home but it's not FREE."

What do you mean by person? If a person was to pay you to talk it up, what are their restrictions.

By the way you owe me $50 worth of food and table time. (Oh wait I guess I need to get their and give you the gift certificate first.)

Dean,
Just wanted to know if a person does that are they limited to talking about one location or business?

Yes, I know some people did see what I was for halloween.

Wow, go to work for 8 hours and come back and see lots of messages.

I had checked the forum rules right before work which state...

DO NOT POST ANY FORM OF ADVERTISING. IT WILL BE DELETED!

I had posted dates, times, entry fees, etc. Dean deleted these and I back him up 100% for doing so.

I would invite someone to try competing with a billiard magazine or website. I think their efforts and investment will be as unrewarded as the past few people who have tried.
I'm not trying to scare anyone out of trying, but I will say this: It takes a LOT of work to get something going and gather advertisers and then get them to pay for their ads. More work than many ever figured it would be. Distribution is another issue. I used to print 6,000 copies of Chalk Talk every edition and mail about 2,000 out to areas like St Cloud, Duluth, Willmar, Iowa, Wisconsin, Fargo, etc... It cost me a few hundred dollars every month at the post office and hours of labeling and enveloping these editions. But doing the work myself was the only way to keep it profitable. Someone wanting to do this and succeed must be ready and capable to do a lot of the work themself.
If someone is interested in doing a publication, please feel free to e-mail me and I'll help you in any way possible. I'm sure Dean would also work with you so many ads could also be on the website. I hope we find a taker!!! Take Care. John Stich