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Re: What a joke!

MOMA is a big joke why do we put up with it, payouts suck .The set up sucks no deals on hotels.1.50 a game
if you win double A you get to spilt with five people 1200.00..WE should try and set up a boycott for next year.MOMA racks in all the money and does nothing for the players .......... sick of it will not play again..and i hope other people have the same views

Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

thirty two teams in double A pay out sucks big

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Just a thought. You can complain the payout sucks. No Biggie If you dont like it dont play. But consider this. Nobody pays any sanctioning for this tournament. Nobody pays weekly into this tournament. The only thing you pay is entry and quarters. The only thing boycotting or complaining will do is get one less tournament in times where we are lucky to have any. This isnt a sanctioning body holding a tournament at a casino thats giving them money. This is a group of vendors giving something back. Yes we pay quarters every week, but those vendors getting them quarters all have there own tournaments too. Pool is hurting, Pool halls and bars are hurting and you want them to give away more money.

Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Yes, stop complaining. Is it all about the money? I think we should be glad we have this tournament to compete in every year. I for one look forward to it and I think they do a good job with it.

Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

This tournement is a joke now! I was told good ridence by Wayne, and Im taking his advice. I wont be attending MOMA again. Its to bad after almost 20 years of attending and representing MN in vegas and numerous AA & Master titles. I dont ever remember complaining to much in the past, and wish not to be in that group.There are to many other tournements to choose from. You lost myself, a team, and by the sounds of it your losing more.Good luck in the future Wayne

Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

I for one thought the tournament ran smoothly, and they did a great job. Sure the payouts were not the greatest but oh well, life is not always great either but we learn to deal with it. We as pool players should be thankful that we still have tournaments to go to, we also have to understand that they have to pay for the tables to be shipped and setup. Also have to take into consideration the cost to rent the venue for 4 or 5 days. I guess my only complaint would be why does it have to be 1.50 a game? They should try to come up with a way to maybe do green fees and open up the tables just a thought. I had a great time thanks to wayne and all his staff.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

perhaps they could come to iowa and attend the ioma state tourney where we have new tables and dont pay anymore than a 5.oo greens fee per event..we also get discounted rooms at nearby motels..gues thats why we have the largest state tourneys in the country..

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

No offense Randy, but you have to do something to get people to come to IOWA...


I'm totally kidding! Hey anyways, about why I'm here...

Read Alan's post again, yeah the payouts might not have been what SOME might be used to for maybe a tourney of this size, and Doug I'm am sorry that you are upset and things didn't work out for you to be there as well because I for one really like hanging with you at tourney's. But your reasons and your opinions are your own and that's why MNBilliards & Billiard Coach are important for everyone to have. But just like the websites and the tourney's, there is always going to be someone that disagrees or even has a preference. Some tourney's are going to be better that others, or not even that, some you might like more than others, just like the websites. But there seems to be the same disagreements and opinions every year and people are still going to visit both sites, at least it seems and people are still going to go to MOMA.

Again, just an opinion, the same one everyone is entitled to.

Thanks Wayne and staff, I personally had a good time, I mean where else can you play pool and then throw down on some hopscotch, man I had a mean game of hopscotch going this year!!! Next year I think I want to do a ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS tourney. $1.00/100% payback... But I'm up for suggestions.

See everyone at the next one!

daxs

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

The count must have been down this year, maybe the payback will be different this next year give everyone a chance. The vendors work hard to keep this going and us as pool players should be happy. We never won anything but watch alot of great pool playing,I thought pool was for people to have fun and get out and meet other players.Wayne works hard at this and does a great job,and if you would of look he was up there most of the time during the whole tournament,plus the ladies they are always there. So I guess if you are not happy stay home,its just to bad

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

I just don't get why someone complains but does not have the guts to post your name.

I had a great time. I did ok in the singles could have done better, if there was not so much noise from hopscotch. It was fun to watch everyone get into it. My team took 5th - 6th in AA, pretty good for us. I am very pleased with the tournament and the new / old friends I hung out with.

If you checked the local hotels you might have found pool specials, because I did.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

i beleive the tournament was ran great, it always is. great job wayne and others.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

I can't allow anymore of this blasphemy by Daxs. I can guarantee that he got handled in a hop-scotch match!!!BY A GIRL!!!!!!Needless to say, I still love the guy. I will say he is the 2nd best hop scotcher around, and I'm proud to call him pal.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Put that in your book!

Posting under someone else's name - Doug read this please

I don't know who did it, but someone posted something in the MOMA thread aimed at Doug saying "good riddance" using Wayne Herron's name. This was NOT posted by Wayne, Wayne called me today and he's very upset that someone did this. He was in Duluth at the time, running the tournament and did not have internet access.

This is NOT ok! It's childish and immature. Also cowardly. If you have something to say, say it and sign your name to it! How old are we that we have to hide behind fake names? Seriously... If you can't sign your name then you must not be confident in your words - therefore save your keystrokes and DON'T POST IT!!

It's one thing to post anonymously, but completely another to use someone else's name. I feel sorry for this person - you must live a sad, lonely life to resort to such antics. It's really too bad...

But - my main reason for this post was to tell Doug that Wayne called me because he DID NOT post that, and he asked me to relay that to you, and to find out who DID post it if possible.

He was very sincere, and I know he would never do or say anything like that - he's very appreciative and respectful of the players. He simply LOVES the sport of pool.

Thank you Wayne for working your A$$ off yet another year! I had a great time, even though I played like a beginner!

I'll have the photos (ALL 800+ of them...UGH!) posted ASAP.

If you haven't yet, please check out my photography site here: toni4ball photography

I'll be getting away (eventually) from the Kodak Gallery, and will be posting all pix on my site.

Thanks everyone!

Re: Posting under someone else's name - Doug read this please

Well Said Toni

Some people should be ashamed of themselves. Wayne did a good job running it this year and has in the past. I don't always like everything either but it's hard to complain with the economy the way it is. If people want more payout then maybe there should be some talk about Cutting off the payouts past 32nd place. I for one know that if I play well then I'd like to see a good return but if I don't play so well then I don't believe I should see 70 dollars in my pocket for that 60th place finishing. Also it would be cool to see some kind of a green fee instead of quarters. Maybe Wayne could have some type of submittance on his website where players could post ideas on how to make the tournament better. Not complaining about this and that.

Have fun. Play well. And Good Luck!

Wayne / Doug / Toni

Unless it's a public computer, and an amazing coincidence...Here's your culprit.....


Benny
IP: 68.117.70.199

Sep 24th, 2008 - 4:37 PM Re: Now Online Fantasy Pool!

How many posts are you going to make about this?


Benny
IP: 68.117.70.199

Sep 16th, 2008 - 5:28 PM Re: Your opinion on best one pocket players...

I asked Voeller the other night and he said that Beau would beat him playing even one hole.

Benny
IP: 68.117.70.199

Sep 16th, 2008 - 6:16 PM no ****

This was a post about players at Shooter's.

I don't think Jesse or Larry would want to play Efren even.

Benny
IP: 68.117.70.199

Sep 17th, 2008 - 2:23 AM lol

The post asked who was the best from a list of players.

Larry would NOT play Efren even one pocket for big money.


subject: action at Jimmy's tonight
Benny 310 1 Sep 16, 08 - 10:16 PM

Benny
IP: 68.117.70.199

Sep 16, 08 - 6:21 PM action at Jimmy's tonight

Jimmy, Beau, Tony H, Dan V going to be playing a ring game or partners one pocket in about 1 hour.

Re: Wayne / Doug / Toni

lol Busted. Nice work Ayman, or should we call you Sherlock from now on?

Re: Wayne / Doug / Toni

I should have probably added the post that was written under Wayne's name...


Wayne Herron
IP: 68.117.70.199

Feb 11th, 2009 - 12:40 PM Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MOMA start times

It seems every year it's the same people complaining. You are always included in that group Doug. I say good riddance to you, I don't need the headache any longer.

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Way to go Ayman!
Whoever this "Benny" is (and I am betting he's one of the young punks from shooters that has had his a#$ kicked by Doug before) should be publicly humiliated and mocked for time to come. What a JERK!!!

As far as MOMA goes, I got a room at the Radisson under the MOMA block for $76.00 per night (Thurs, Fri, & Sat) which I think was a very reasonable deal. You just have to plan ahead. You will get screwed if you wait til the last minute for ANYTHING!

As far as the tourney, I shot horrible but had a great time! Well done Wayne & crew! I know the entries were down and will probably be down until the economy comes back. The only suggestion I would make is to not pay back so far in the field! I think in team A you only had to win like 3 matches to get in the money which was paying about half the field. I would say for instance in A there was an $11000.00 + prize pool and they only paid 1st like 11 or 12 hundred because 32nd was getting a hundred bucks or something. Pay the top 5 or 6 the bulk and call it good when there is only a 60 team field.

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Young punks from Shooters? I for one enjoy having Doug at the tournaments, he's a class act and a fun competitor. I'm pretty sure no one else down there holds a grudge towards him for any reason.

About MOMA, I think Wayne said they were down like 30 teams from the year before, that would make some sense from the payouts to be lower then the year before. My biggest gripe is if we're paying $1.50 a game, could we at least get the same kind of balls in a rack. Most of the tables in the back room had 2 different kinds of sets in the 15 balls and that makes it just a tad bit hard to make sure they rack tight. The front room was good, but boy did that back room suck.

Re: Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Just wanted to say thanks to Toni for relaying the message! Thanks Aymon for the research, I should have looked at the 2 different IP addresses. Yes Kris I hold no grudges against you (young punks) at Shooters. Your not even young! See you at BCA in a few

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Singles were down this year from 739 to 684 from last year. Teams were down from 280 to 256. Since payouts were weak for the higher placed teams/singles, maybe you should have to win another match or two to get in the money. The players/teams that do the best should get rewarded.

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Not picking sides, but i know for a fact no vender is profiting from this event. Payouts are what they are based on entries. It is simple math. if you want larger payouts let's go back to two divisions. having 8 or 9 divisions is crazy.
I think $1.50 tables are high. players play leagues all season, i think it would be nice to see a brake on rates for state tournaments.
erik

Re: m.o.m.a payouts???????

Alan hit this thread directly... Players take note on what you are complaing about. This tournament is something that is given to you, the MOMA Association does not make money off of this event.

Wayne, hats off to a smoothly run event that keep players playing on time and the extreme hours you put forth in running this massive event!

This event is about pride as much as anything! Congrats to the youngsters Jared and Ross for holding their own and taking the Masters division. What a match versus Ty and crew. I Feel Wayne made a great choice on having this match played at primetime....there were loads of players watching this great match - they would have been gone Sunday morning and it would have been a quiet victory. I am sure the boys had fun winning their title Saturday night!!!

MOMA is the States longest running event - let us give thanks where thanks is due.